M: I am what I am and this is enough
for me. I have no desire to identify myself with anybody, however
illustrious. Nor do I feel the need to take myths for reality. I am
only interested in ignorance and the freedom from ignorance. The
proper role of a Guru is to dispel ignorance in the hearts and minds
of his disciples. Once the disciple has understood, the confirming
action is up to him. Nobody can act for another. And if he does not
act rightly, it only means that he has not understood and that the
Guru's work is not over.
*
M: What is beginningless cannot have a
cause. It is not that you knew what you are and then you have
forgotten. Once you know, you cannot forget. Ignorance has no
beginning, but can have an end. Enquire: who is ignorant and
ignorance will dissolve like a dream. The world is full of
contradictions, hence your search for harmony and peace. These you
cannot find in the world, for the world is the child of chaos. To
find order you must search within. The world comes into being only
when you are born in a body. No body -- no world. First enquire
whether you are the body. The understanding of the world will come
later.
Q: What you say sounds convincing, but
of what use is it to the private person, who knows itself to be in
the world and of the world?
M: Millions eat bread, but few know all
about wheat. And only those who know can improve the bread.
Similarly, only those who know the self, who have seen beyond the
world, can improve the world. Their value to private persons is
immense, for they are their only hope of salvation. What is in the
world cannot save the world; if you really care to help the world you
must step out of it.
Q: But can one step out of the world?
M: Who was born first, you or the
world? As long as you give first place to the world, you are bound by
it; once you realise, beyond all trace of doubt that the world is in
you and not you in the world, you are out of it.
*
All you want is to be happy. All your
desires, whatever they may be, are expressions of your longing for
happiness. Basically, you wish yourself well.
Q: I know that I should not...
M: Wait! Who told you that you should
not? What is wrong with wanting to be happy?
Q: The self must go, l know.
M: But the self is there. Your desires
are there. Your longing to be happy is there. Why? Because you love
yourself. By all means love yourself -- wisely. What is wrong is to
love yourself stupidly, so as to make yourself suffer. Love yourself
wisely. Both indulgence and austerity have the same purpose in view
-- to make you happy. Indulgence is the stupid way, austerity is the
wise way.
*
M: It is always the false that makes
you suffer, the false desires and fears, the false values and ideas, the false relationships between
people. Abandon the false and you are free of pain; truth makes happy -- truth liberates.
*
Q: If my true being is always with me,
how is it that I am ignorant of it?
M: Because it is very subtle and your
mind is gross, full of gross thoughts and feelings. Calm and clarify
your mind and you will know yourself as you are.
Q: Do I need the mind to know myself?
M: You are beyond the mind, but you
know with your mind. It is obvious that the extent, depth and character of knowledge depend on what
instrument you use. Improve your instrument and your knowledge will
improve.
Q: To know perfectly I need a perfect
mind.
M: A quiet mind is all you need. All
else will happen rightly, once your mind is quiet. As the sun on
rising makes the world active, so does self-awareness affect changes
in the mind. In the light of calm and steady self-awareness inner
energies wake up and work miracles without any effort on your part.
*
Q: How do I come to know that I have
achieved perfection?
M: You can not know perfection, you can
know only imperfection. For knowledge to be, there must be separation
and disharmony. You can know what you are not, but you can not know
your real being. You can be only what you are. The entire approach is
through understanding, which is in the seeing of the false as false.
But to understand, you must observe from outside.
*
As under a stone there will be
darkness, however strong the sunlight, so in the shadow of the 'I-
am-the-body' consciousness there must be ignorance and illusion.
*
Q: What are the obstacles?
M: Wrong ideas and desires leading to
wrong actions, causing dissipation and weakness of mind and body. The
discovery and abandonment of the false remove what prevents the real
entering the mind.
*
M: Ignorance is the cause of
inevitability.
Q: Ignorance of what?
M: Ignorance of yourself primarily.
Also, ignorance of the true nature of things, of their causes and
effects. You look round without understanding and take appearances
for reality. You believe you know the world and yourself -- but it is
only your ignorance that makes youQ: Then why are we not free here
and now?
M: But we are free ‘here and now’.
It is only the mind that imagines bondage. say: I know. Begin with
the admission that you do not know and start from there.
There is nothing that can help the
world more than your putting an end to ignorance. Then, you need not
do anything in particular to help the world. Your very being is a
help, action or no action.
Q: How can ignorance be known? To know
ignorance presupposes knowledge.
M: Quite right. The very admission: 'I
am ignorant' is the dawn of knowledge. An ignorant man is ignorant of
his ignorance. You can say that ignorance does not exist, for the
moment it is seen it is no more. Therefore, you may call it
unconsciousness or blindness. All you see around and within you is
what you do not know and do not understand, without even knowing that
you do not know and do not understand. To know that you do not know
and do not understand is true knowledge, the knowledge of an humble
heart.
Q: Yes, Christ said: Blessed are the
poor in spirit...
M: Put it as you like; the fact is that
knowledge is of ignorance only. You know that you do not know.
*
Q: What will remain with me if I let go
my memories?
M: Nothing will remain.
Q: I am afraid.
M: You will be afraid until you
experience freedom and its blessings. Of course, some memories are
needed to identify and guide the body and such memories do remain,
but there is no attachment left to the body as such; it is no longer
the ground for desire or fear. All this is not very difficult to
understand and practice, but you must be interested. Without interest
nothing can be done.
Having seen that you are a bundle of
memories held together by attachment, step out and look from the
outside. You may perceive for the first time something which is not
memory. You cease to be a Mr-so-and-so, busy about his own affairs.
You are at last at peace. You realise that nothing was ever wrong
with the world -- you alone were wrong and now it is all over. Never
again will you be caught in the meshes of desire born of ignorance.
*
Q: I find that I am always restless,
longing, hoping, seeking, finding, enjoying, abandoning, searching
again. What is it that keeps me on the boil?
M: You are really in search of
yourself, without knowing it. You are love-longing for the
love-worthy, the perfectly lovable. Due to ignorance you are looking
for it in the world of opposites and contradictions. When you find it
within, your search will be over.
*
Maharaj: All waiting is futile. To
depend on time to solve our problems is self-delusion. The future,
left to itself merely repeats the past. Change can only happen now,
never in the future.
Q: What brings about a change?
M: With crystal clarity see the need of
change. This is all.
*
Questioner: The war is on. What is your
attitude to it?
Maharaj: In some place or other, in
some form or other, the war is always on. Was there a time when there
was no war? Some say it is the will of God. Some say it is God's
play. It is another way of saying that wars are inevitable and nobody
is responsible.
Q: But what is your own attitude?
M: Why impose attitudes on me? I have
no attitude to call my own.
Q: Surely somebody is responsible for
this horrible and senseless carnage. Why do people kill each other so
readily?
M: Search for the culprit within. The
ideas of 'me' and 'mine' are at the root of all conflict. Be free of
them and you will be out of conflict.
*
M: No doubt, a drug that can affect
your brain can also affect your mind, and give you all the strange
experiences promised. But what are all the drugs compared to the drug
that gave you this most unusual experience of being born and living
in sorrow and fear, in search of happiness, which does not come, or
does not last. You should enquire into the nature of this drug and
find an antidote. Birth, life, death -- they are one. Find out what
had caused them. Before you were born, you were already drugged. What
kind of drug was it? You may cure yourself of all diseases, but if
you are still under the influence of the primordial drug, of what use
are the superficial cures?
Q: Is it not karma that causes rebirth?
M: You may change the name, but the
fact remains. What is the drug which you call karma or destiny? It
made you believe yourself to be what you are not. What is it, and can
you be free of it? Before you go further you must accept, at least as
a working theory, that you are not what you appear to be, that you
are under the influence of a drug. Then only will you have the urge
and the patience to examine the symptoms and search for their common
cause. All that a Guru can tell you is: ‘My dear Sir, you are quite
mistaken about yourself. You are not the person you think yourself to
be.’ Trust nobody, not even yourself. Search, find out, remove and
reject every assumption till you reach the living waters and the rock
of truth. Until you are free of the drug, all your religions and
sciences, prayers and Yogas are of no use to you, for based on a
mistake, they strengthen it. But if you stay with the idea that you
are not the body nor the mind, not even their witness, but altogether
beyond, your mind will grow in clarity, your desires -- in purity,
your actions -- in charity and that inner distillation will take you
to another world, a world of truth and fearless love. Resist your old
habits of feeling and thinking; keep on telling yourself: ‘No, not
so, it cannot be so; I am not like this, I do not need it, I do not
want it’, and a day will surely come when the entire structure of
error and despair will collapse and the ground will be free for a new
life. After all, you must remember, that all your preoccupations with
yourself are only in your waking hours and partly in your dreams; in
sleep all is put aside and forgotten. It shows how little important
is your waking life, even to yourself, that merely lying down and
closing the eyes can end it. Each time you go to sleep you do so
without the least certainty of waking up and yet you accept the risk.
*
M: What you see as false, dissolves. It
is the very nature of illusion to dissolve on investigation.
Investigate -- that is all. You cannot destroy the false, for you are
creating it all the time. Withdraw from it, ignore it, go beyond, and
it will cease to be.
*
Q: Then why are we not free here and
now?
M: But we are free ‘here and now’.
It is only the mind that imagines bondage.
*
M: Do not try to know the truth, for
knowledge by the mind is not true knowledge. But you can know what is
not true -- which is enough to liberate you from the false. The idea
that you know what is true is dangerous, for it keeps you imprisoned
in the mind. It is when you do not know, that you are free to
investigate. And there can be no salvation, without investigation,
because non-investigation is the main cause of bondage.
*
M: What else are you fit for? All your
going and coming, seeking pleasure, loving and hating – all this
shows that you struggle against limitations, self-imposed or
accepted. In your ignorance you make mistakes and cause pain to
yourself and others, but the urge is there and shall not be denied.
The same urge that seeks birth, happiness and death shall seek
understanding and liberation. It is like a spark of fire in a cargo
of cotton. You may not know about it, but sooner or later the ship
will burst in flames.
*
M: Sooner or later your physical and
mental resources will come to an end. What will you do then? Despair?
All right, despair. You will get tired of despairing and begin to
question. At that moment you will be fit for conscious Yoga.
Q: I find all this seeking and brooding
most unnatural.
M: Yours is the naturalness of a born
cripple. You may be unaware but it does not make you normal. What it
means to be natural or normal you do not know, nor do you know that
you do not know.
At present you are drifting and
therefore in danger, for to a drifter any moment anything may happen.
It would be better to wake up and see your situation. That you are --
you know. What you are -- you don't know. Find out what you are.
*
Q: What about the chains of destiny
forged by sin?
M: When ignorance, the mother of sin,
dissolves, destiny, the compulsion to sin again, ceases.
Q: There are retributions to make.
M: With ignorance coming to an end all
comes to an end. Things are then seen as they are and they are good.
*
Q: If I know myself, shall I not desire
and fear?
M: For some time the mental habits may
linger in spite of the new vision, the habit of longing for the known
past and fearing the unknown future. When you know these are of the
mind only, you can go beyond them. As long as you have all sorts of
ideas about yourself, you know yourself through the mist of these
ideas; to know yourself as you are, give up all ideas. You cannot
imagine the taste of pure water, you can only discover it by
abandoning all flavourings.
As long as you are interested in your
present way of living, you will not abandon it. Discovery cannot come
as long as you cling to the familiar. It is only when you realise
fully the immense sorrow of your life and revolt against it, that a
way out can be found.
*
M: Religions show their true face in
action, in silent action. To know what man believes, watch how he
acts. For most of the people service of their bodies and their minds
is their religion. They may have religious ideas, but they do not act
on them. They play with them, they are often very fond of them, but
they will not act on them.
*
M: Only by denying can one live.
Assertion is bondage. To question and deny is necessary. It is the
essence of revolt and without revolt there can be no freedom.
There is no second, or higher self to
search for. You are the highest self, only give up the false ideas
you have about your self. Both faith and reason tell you that you are
neither the body, nor its desires and fears, nor are you the mind
with its fanciful ideas, nor the role society compels you to play,
the person you are supposed to be. Give up the false and the true
will come into its own.
*
Q: Life is sad.
M: Ignorance causes sorrow. Happiness
follows understanding.
Q: Why should ignorance be painful?
M: It is at the root of all desire and
fear, which are painful states and the source of endless errors.
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