M: When I say a thing is without a
cause, I mean it can be without a particular cause. Your own mother
was needed to give you birth; But you could not have been born
without the sun and the earth. Even these could not have caused your
birth without your own desire to be born. It is desire that gives
birth, that gives name and form. The desirable is imagined and wanted
and manifests itself as something tangible or conceivable. Thus is
created the world in which we live, our personal world. The real
world is beyond the mind's ken; we see it through the net of our
desires, divided into pleasure and pain, right and wrong, inner and
outer. To see the universe as it is, you must step beyond the net. It
is not hard to do so, for the net is full of holes.
Q: What do you mean by holes? And how
to find them?
M: Look at the net and its many
contradictions. You do and undo at every step. You want peace, love,
happiness and work hard to create pain, hatred and war. You want
longevity and overeat, you want friendship and exploit. See your net
as made of such contradictions and remove them – your very seeing
them will make them go.
*
Q: What are the guide-lines for such
distinction? How am I to know which of my desires are right and which
are wrong?
M: In your case desires that lead to
sorrow are wrong and those which lead to happiness are right. But you
must not forget others. Their sorrow and happiness also count.
Q: Results are in the future. How can I
know what they will be?
M: Use your mind. Remember. Observe.
You are not different from others. Most of their experiences are
valid for you too. Think clearly and deeply, go into the entire
structure of your desires and their ramifications. They are a most
important part of your mental and emotional make- up and powerfully
affect your actions. Remember, you cannot abandon what you do not
know. To go beyond yourself, you must know yourself.
*
Q: Why do desires arise at all?
M: Because you imagine that you were
born, and that you will die if you do not take care of your body.
Desire for embodied existence is the root-cause of trouble.
*
M: Your mind projects a structure and
you identify yourself with it. It is in the nature of desire to
prompt the mind to create a world for its fulfilment. Even a small
desire can start a long line of action; what about a strong desire?
Desire can produce a universe; its powers are miraculous. Just as a
small matchstick can set a huge forest on fire, so does a desire
light the fires of manifestation. The very purpose of creation is the
fulfilment of desire. The desire may be noble, or ignoble, space
(akash) is neutral -- one can fill it with what one likes: You must
be very careful as to what you desire. And as to the people you want
to help, they are in their respective worlds for the sake of their
desires; there is no way of helping them except through their
desires. You can only teach them to have right desires so that they
may rise above them and be free from the urge to create and re-
create worlds of desires, abodes of pain and pleasure.
*
Q: The desire to live is a tremendous
thing.
M: Still greater is the freedom from
the urge to live.
*
M: The desire to live is the one
fundamental desire. All else depends on it.
Q: We live, because we must.
M: We live, because we crave sensory
existence.
Q: A thing so universal cannot be
wrong.
M: Not wrong, of course. In its own
place and time nothing is wrong. But when you are concerned with
truth, with reality, you must question every thing, your very life.
By asserting the necessity of sensory and intellectual experience you
narrow down your enquiry to search for comfort.
Q: I seek happiness, not comfort.
M: Beyond comfort of mind and body what
happiness do you know?
Q: Is there any other?
M: Find out for yourself. Question
every urge, hold no desire legitimate. Empty of possession, physical and mental, free of all
self-concern, be open for discovery.
*
M: Without trust there is no peace.
Somebody or other you always trust -- it may be your mother, or your
wife. Of all the people the knower of the self, the liberated man, is
the most trust-worthy. But merely to trust is not enough. You must
also desire. Without desire for freedom of what use is the confidence
that you can acquire freedom? Desire and confidence must go together.
The stronger your desire, the easier comes the help. The greatest
Guru is helpless as long as the disciple is not eager to learn.
Eagerness and earnestness are all-important. Confidence will come
with experience. Be devoted to your goal -- and devotion to him who
can guide you will follow. If your desire and confidence are strong,
they will operate and take you to your goal, for you will not cause
delay by hesitation and compromise.
*
Only contentment can make you happy --
desires fulfilled breed more desires. Keeping away from all desires
and contentment in what comes by itself is a very fruitful state -- a
precondition to the state of fullness. Don't distrust its apparent
sterility and emptiness. Believe me, it is the satisfaction of
desires that breeds misery. Freedom from desires is bliss.
*
Above everything else you cherish
yourself. You would accept nothing in exchange for your existence.
The desire to be is the strongest of all desires and will go only on
the realisation of your true nature.
*
M: All desires must be given up,
because by desiring you take the shape of your desires. When no
desires remain, you revert to your natural state.
*
M: If you do not have the wisdom and
the strength to give up, just look at your possessions. Your mere
looking will burn them up. If you can stand outside your mind, you
will soon find that total renunciation of possessions and desires is
the most obviously reasonable thing to do. You create the world and
then worry about it. Becoming selfish makes you weak. If you think
you have the strength and courage to desire, it is because you are
young and inexperienced. Invariably the object of desire destroys the
means of acquiring it and then itself withers away. It is all for the
best, because it teaches you to shun desire like poison.
*
Q: How am I to practice desirelessness?
M: No need of practice. No need of any
acts of renunciation. Just turn your mind away, that is all. Desire
is merely the fixation of the mind on an idea. Get it out of its
groove by denying it attention.
Q: That is all?
M: Yes, that is all. Whatever may be
the desire or fear, don't dwell upon it. Try and see for yourself.
Here and there you may forget, it does not matter. Go back to your
attempts till the brushing away of every desire and fear, of every
reaction becomes automatic.
*
Q: When I ask how do you know that you
are a jnani, you answer: 'I find no desire in me. Is this not a
proof?'
M: Were I full of desires, I would have
still been what I am.
Q: Myself, full of desires and you,
full of desires; what difference would there be?
M: You identify yourself with your
desires and become their slave. To me desires are things among other
things, mere clouds in the mental sky, and I do not feel compelled to
act on them.
*
Q: From where does desire draw its
energy?
M: Its name and shape it draws from
memory. The energy flows from the source.
Q: Some desires are altogether wrong.
How can wrong desires flow from a sublime source?
M: The source is neither right nor
wrong. Nor is desire by itself right or wrong. It is nothing but
striving for happiness. Having identified yourself with a speck of a
body you feel lost and search desperately for the sense of fullness
and completeness you call happiness.
*
Q: Things may be transient, yet they
are very much with us, in endless repetition.
M: Desires are strong. It is desire
that causes repetition. There is no recurrence where desire is not.
Q: What about fear?
M: Desire is of the past, fear is of
the future. The memory of past suffering and the fear of its
recurrence make one anxious about the future.
Q: There is also fear of the unknown.
M: Who has not suffered is not afraid.
Q: We are condemned to fear?
M: Until we can look at fear and accept
it as the shadow of personal existence, as persons we are bound to be
afraid. Abandon all personal equations and you shall be free from
fear. It is not difficult. Desirelessness comes on its own when
desire is recognised as false. You need not struggle with desire.
Ultimately, it is an urge to happiness, which is natural as long as
there is sorrow. Only see that there is no happiness in what you
desire.
Q: We settle for pleasure.
M: Each pleasure is wrapped in pain.
You soon discover that you cannot have one without the other.
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