NM: I know nothing about it all and see
no difference between you and me. My life is a succession of events, just like yours. Only I am
detached and see the passing show as a passing show, while you stick to things and move along with
them.
NM: What is wrong with its seeking the
pleasant and shirking the unpleasant? Between the banks of pain and pleasure the river of life
flows. It is only when the mind refuses to flow with life, and gets stuck at the banks, that it becomes a
problem. By flowing with life I mean acceptance -- letting come what comes and go what goes. Desire
not, fear not, observe the actual (…)
*
For in reality nothing is of value. Be
passionately dispassionate -- that is all.
*
Q: Our real being is all the time with
us, you say. How is it that we do not notice it?
M: Yes, you are always the Supreme. But
your attention is fixed on things, physical or mental. When your
attention is off a thing and not yet fixed on another, in the
interval you are pure being. When through the practice of
discrimination and detachment (viveka-vairagya), you lose sight of
sensory and mental states, pure being emerges as the natural state.
*
Just like a deficiency disease is cured
through the supply of the missing factor, so are the diseases of
living cured by a good dose of intelligent detachment.
(viveka-vairagya).
*
Put it as you like; attachment is
bondage, detachment is freedom. To crave is to slave.
*
Q: Let us say, the jnani is ill. He has
caught some flu and every joint aches and burns. What is his state of
mind?
M: Every sensation is contemplated in
perfect equanimity. There is no desire for it, nor refusal. It is as
it is and then he looks at it with a smile of affectionate
detachment.
Q: He may be detached from his own
suffering, but still it is there.
M: It is there, but it does not matter.
Whatever state I am in, I see it as a state of mind to be accepted as
it is.
*
M: What you gave up is of no importance
now. What have you not given up?. Find that out and give up that.
Sadhana is a search for what to give up. Empty yourself completely.
*
It is enough to watch oneself
dispassionately to isolate oneself completely from what is going on.
*
M: What you need will come to you, if
you do not ask for what you do not need. Yet only few people reach
this state of complete dispassion and detachment. It is a very high
state, the very threshold of liberation.
*
M: It is not easy to remember when
every situation brings up a storm of desires and fears. Craving born
of memory is also the destroyer of memory.
Q: How am I to fight desire? There is
nothing stronger.
M: The waters of life are thundering
over the rocks of objects -- desirable or hateful. Remove the rocks
by insight and detachment and the same waters will flow deep and
silent and swift, in greater volume and with greater power. Don't be
theoretical about it, give time to thought and consideration; if you
desire to be free, neglect not the nearest step to freedom. It is
like climbing a mountain: not a step can be missed. One step less --
and the summit is not reached.
*
M: There is trouble only when you cling
to something. When you hold on to nothing, no trouble arises. The
relinquishing of the lesser is the gaining of the greater. Give up
all and you gain all. Then life becomes what it was meant to be: pure
radiation from an inexhaustible source. In that light the world
appears dimly like a dream.
*
Q: If you are beyond words, what shall
we talk about? Metaphysically speaking, what you say holds together;
there is no inner contradiction. But there is no food for me in what
you say. It is so completely beyond my urgent needs. When I ask for
bread, you are giving jewels. They are beautiful, no doubt, but I am
hungry.
M: It is not so. I am offering you
exactly what you need -- awakening. You are not hungry and you need
no bread. You need cessation, relinquishing, disentanglement. What
you believe you need is not what you need. Your real need I know, not
you. You need to return to the state in which I am -- your natural
state. Anything else you may think of is an illusion and an obstacle.
Believe me, you need nothing except to be what you are. You imagine
you will increase your value by acquisition. It is like gold
imagining that an addition of copper will improve it. Elimination and
purification, renunciation of all that is foreign to your nature is
enough. All else is vanity.
*
M: Merely giving up a thing to secure a
better one is not true relinquishment. Give it up because you see its
valuelessness. As you keep on giving up, you will find that you grow
spontaneously in intelligence and power and inexhaustible love and
joy.
Q: Why so much insistence on
relinquishing all desires and fears? Are they not natural?
M: They are not. They are entirely
mind-made. You have to give up everything to know that you need
nothing, not even your body. Your needs are unreal and your efforts
are meaningless. You imagine that your possessions protect you. In
reality they make you vulnerable. realise yourself as away from all
that can be pointed at as 'this' or 'that'. You are unreachable by
any sensory experience or verbal construction. Turn away from them.
Refuse to impersonate.
*
M: Whenever a thought or emotion of
desire or fear comes to your mind, just turn away from it.
Q: By suppressing my thoughts and
feelings I shall provoke a reaction.
M: I am not talking of suppression.
Just refuse attention.
Q: Must I not use effort to arrest the
movements of the mind?
M: It has nothing to do with effort.
Just turn away, look between the thoughts, rather than at the
thoughts. When you happen to walk in a crowd, you do not fight every
man you meet -- you just find your way between.
Q: If I use my will to control the
mind, it only strengthens the ego.
M: Of course. When you fight, you
invite a fight. But when you do not resist, you meet with no
resistance. When you refuse to play the game, you are out of it.
*
Q: No amount of effort can make me
fearless.
M: Fearlessness comes by itself, when
you see that there is nothing to be afraid of. When you walk in a
crowded street, you just bypass people. Some you see, some you just
glance at, but you do not stop. It is the stopping that creates the
bottleneck. Keep moving! Disregard names and shapes, don't be
attached to them; your attachment is your bondage.
*
M: Attachment destroys courage. The
giver is always ready to give. The taker is absent. Freedom means
letting go. People just do not care to let go everything. They do not
know that the finite is the price of the infinite, as death is the
price of immortality. Spiritual maturity lies in the readiness to let
go everything. The giving up is the first step. But the real giving
up is in realising that there is nothing to give up, for nothing is
your own. It is like deep sleep -- you do not give up your bed when
you fall sleep -- you just forget it.
*
M: Of course, when there is total
surrender, complete relinquishment of all concern with one's past,
presents and future, with one's physical and spiritual security and
standing, a new life dawns, full of love and beauty; then the Guru is
not important, for the disciple has broken the shell of self-defence.
Complete self-surrender by itself is liberation.
*
M: .. to be quite detached, beyond the
reach of all self- concern, all selfish consideration, is an
inescapable condition of liberation. You may call it death; to me it
is living at its most meaningful and intense, for I am one with life
in its totality and fullness -- intensity, meaningfulness, harmony;
what more do you want?
*
Q: I feel the need of cooling down.
M: It is very often so with Americans
and Europeans. After a stretch of sadhana they become charged with
energy and frantically seek an outlet. They organise communities,
become teachers of Yoga, marry, write books -- anything except
keeping quiet and turning their energies within, to find the source
of the inexhaustible power and learn the art of keeping it under
control.
Q: I admit that now I want to go back
and live a very active life, because I feel full of energy. M: You
can do what you like, as long as you do not take yourself to be the
body and the mind. It is not so much a question of actual giving up
the body and all that goes with it, as a clear understanding that you
are not the body. A sense of aloofness, of emotional non-involvement.
*
M: Refuse attention, let things come
and go. Desires and thoughts are also things. Disregard them. Since
immemorial time the dust of events was covering the clear mirror of
your mind, so that only memories you could see. Brush off the dust
before it has time to settle; this will lay bare the old layers until
the true nature of your mind is discovered. It is all very simple and
comparatively easy; be earnest and patient, that is all. Dispassion,
detachment, freedom from desire and fear, from all self-concern, mere
awareness -- free from memory and expectation -- this is the state of
mind to which discovery can happen.
*
M: A level of mental maturity is
reached when nothing external is of any value and the heart is ready
to relinquish all. Then the real has a
chance and it grasps it. Delays, if any, are caused by the mind being
unwilling to see or to discard.
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